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tavis: since you mentioned the present, the first debate between mr. obama and mr. romney is behind us. the president is on his own. just weeks ago at the democratic convention he had a nice assist from former president bill clinton. bill clinton has weighed in on this issue. again, it is one thing for you and me to talk about. when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans what the electorate in 2012 to look like the 2010 electorate and not like the 2008 electorate. explain what he meant by thtat. >> if you look at the 2008 electorate, it was a the per se electric, a denver electorate. and it signaled a democrat change in the country and what the electorate will look like going forward in 2016 and beyond. that is why i called the coalition of the ascendant. if you look at 2010, it was an electorate that was older and more conservative. that is why republicans did so well in 2010 and not so well in 2008. clinton said this is not rocket science, tha
tavis: since you mentioned the present, the first debate between mr. obama and mr. romney is behind us. the president is on his own. just weeks ago at the democratic convention he had a nice assist from former president bill clinton. bill clinton has weighed in on this issue. again, it is one thing for you and me to talk about. when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans...
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than does president obama?" >> gross domestic product. >> gross domestic product. governor romney wants to bring government spending per g.d.p. to g.d.p. down to 20%. and he has a theory that says that if you do that and you do the other things that he's going to do with the tax code that he is going to get economic growth. and so the second thing i'm listening for is, "what is their solution to the situation we're in right now with the economy? how are they going to solve the deficit problem and also increase job creation?" and i'd like to hear that explained clearly, because they have two very different philosophies. third, i think that if the debates do their job, we're going to be able to answer the question, "what are the sacrifices either one is going to ask us to make?" >> such as reforming social security, medicare, higher taxes, lower taxes? >> yes. and on the table are all sorts of things that many people value a great deal and we may not be able to afford anymore. so should we have deductibility for second home mortgages? should we have deductibility for
than does president obama?" >> gross domestic product. >> gross domestic product. governor romney wants to bring government spending per g.d.p. to g.d.p. down to 20%. and he has a theory that says that if you do that and you do the other things that he's going to do with the tax code that he is going to get economic growth. and so the second thing i'm listening for is, "what is their solution to the situation we're in right now with the economy? how are they going to solve...
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if you looked at the debate. president obama looked down a lot. and looking at his notes. what about the body language. >> i thought body language. styliically romm rom was the winner. no one disputes that. but the substance issues, when you look at the fact that mitt romney got out there and said, he's not going to voucher -- he will medicare and cut taxes. what i find interesting is that mitt romney has been all over the place in what he. >> no, he hasn't. >> you can't trust him. just yesterday he said something else. when it comes down to it. they are issues that are challenging. >> for obama to go back to the bill clinton days. bill clinton worked with republicanns, president obama has not. >> he tried to work with republicans. >> one more question i want to ask you both. >> sure. >> what about the undecided vores? that is what they aimed for. who won the undecided vote. >> mitt romney did. independents are result oriented and mitt romney said this is how it worked in the past and going to be done. >> i think independents are undecided if they had the second and third
if you looked at the debate. president obama looked down a lot. and looking at his notes. what about the body language. >> i thought body language. styliically romm rom was the winner. no one disputes that. but the substance issues, when you look at the fact that mitt romney got out there and said, he's not going to voucher -- he will medicare and cut taxes. what i find interesting is that mitt romney has been all over the place in what he. >> no, he hasn't. >> you can't trust...
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the country thought obama was a better debater. i suspect, given those expectations, romney will have over-performed. >> woodruff: do you think it was a deliberate strategy on the part of the president to not be more aggressive or he was trying to hue to the format, the economy and health care and the role of government? what do you-- >> my impression, he has sessions with columnists where he defends his policies. that's what he sounds like. and so i don't think it was anything different than he has been talkin talk within the reaf the white house for the past four years. >> it was too policy abstract, the president's presentation was. and, you know, the few times he did put a human face on it, as i mentioned, it was better. what i found interesting was who became the innocence by association figures? tip o'neill and ronald reagan were invoked by both sides. ( laughter ). and donald trump became the punching bag of small business. i just eye found that interesting. and of course bill clt was embraced not simply by the president but
the country thought obama was a better debater. i suspect, given those expectations, romney will have over-performed. >> woodruff: do you think it was a deliberate strategy on the part of the president to not be more aggressive or he was trying to hue to the format, the economy and health care and the role of government? what do you-- >> my impression, he has sessions with columnists where he defends his policies. that's what he sounds like. and so i don't think it was anything...
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he did it brilliantly in this debate. >> why don't you go to work for romney since you work for obama? >> i'll see what happens going forward. too early to tell, john. >> really. >> absolutely. i've been a democrat all my life. >> what do you think? >> the first half-hour they talked about romney's tax cut plan which he cobbled together during the primaries, and he denied that it's going to cost $5 trillion over the next few years but it is going to tax the middle class more than the wealthy, according to the tax center, by $2,000 per household. on the clinton question, the clinton question, romney showed, like bill clinton energized the democratic con of earnings romney has energized his base that was about to abandon him, and he's shown that he's a contender. but the more the fact checkers, the more the debate goes on, the more people find -- >> you mean -- >> why wasn't obama the fact checker? >> do you mean obama is the incumbent? >> i thought i made that clear the first time around. it's not just tin come ben see, though. >> he's the president. >> john, have you forgotten all the
he did it brilliantly in this debate. >> why don't you go to work for romney since you work for obama? >> i'll see what happens going forward. too early to tell, john. >> really. >> absolutely. i've been a democrat all my life. >> what do you think? >> the first half-hour they talked about romney's tax cut plan which he cobbled together during the primaries, and he denied that it's going to cost $5 trillion over the next few years but it is going to tax the...
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obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today just a few hours before the debates started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that is interesting. >> i don't know. >> judge jeanine: who is the person who is saying that is interesting? that is crazy! all right, the next presidential debate it ten days away. will governor romney keep his momentum going or will president obama do better this time at a lower altitude? indiana congressman dan burton and texas congress woman sheila jackson-lee join us. how are you this evening? >> fine, thank you. >> what do we think about that claim? think it could have been the altitude? i will start with you congress woman jackson-lee. >> that claim never came from president obama nor his camp nor any of us who think atoutly astutely, debates don't govern or provide healthcare or o investment in innovation and provide opportunities for young people for higher education and doesn't provide a safe and secure nation. that is what president obama can stand on
obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today just a few hours before the debates started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that is interesting. >> i don't know. >> judge jeanine: who is the person who is saying that is interesting? that is crazy! all right, the next presidential debate it ten days away. will governor romney keep his momentum going or will president obama do...
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president obama and governor romney meeting on stage for the first presidential debate of 2012. despite the best efforts stations is running high. tonight trends out to be the culmination of weeks of verbal sparring between the campaigns and conflict and contradiction within the of -- obamacare pain itself. robert and stephanie better contradicted each other this morning low trying to defend and diminish the impact of vice president joe biden three marks. telling reporters the middle-class has been buried over the last four years not even aware obama was leading the nation and robert gibbs said he was referring to damage the bush had caused. >> we had eight years of terrific decisions, wall street rate teeing its own rules that took place four years ago of which we had to dig out from each day. be clear. the middle-class was buried for a lot longer than we were dealing with bad economic decisions. lou: stephanie cutter contradicted trying to spin them out of the last four years telling another network we're absolutely not we made our predecessors by any means. three days after d
president obama and governor romney meeting on stage for the first presidential debate of 2012. despite the best efforts stations is running high. tonight trends out to be the culmination of weeks of verbal sparring between the campaigns and conflict and contradiction within the of -- obamacare pain itself. robert and stephanie better contradicted each other this morning low trying to defend and diminish the impact of vice president joe biden three marks. telling reporters the middle-class has...
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and president obama needed good news. and remember the stimulus promise to keep unemployment below 8%, stimulus worked. okay. but i mean politically and psychologically the difference between 8.1 and 7.8 is significant. but i agree with david. i think to a greet degree, judy, the economy is already baked into people's political equation. a number, an insignificant number probably isn't going to change the political equation. >> what does it do though, david, to the romney sort of central argument at one point, of his campaign which was the president has failed on the economy. >> yeah, i don't really think it changed that. i mean we're gaining 114,000 jobs a year,-- i mean a month. you know, this time in many recoveries we're gaining 200,000300,000, times even 400,000. so if we are at a healthy recovery, then you know, then it would hurt his argument but we're not a haley economy. and it's still basically true, though only by a slimmer margin that 2012 has been worse than 2011. so he with still make that argument. and he'l
and president obama needed good news. and remember the stimulus promise to keep unemployment below 8%, stimulus worked. okay. but i mean politically and psychologically the difference between 8.1 and 7.8 is significant. but i agree with david. i think to a greet degree, judy, the economy is already baked into people's political equation. a number, an insignificant number probably isn't going to change the political equation. >> what does it do though, david, to the romney sort of central...
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. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused on is what kind of performance does each man need to have? i do think that the fact that -- remember, president obama was not good at debates during the last cycle. he got better throughout the course of the debates. so did mitt romney. seeing what performances are like, i think the stakes are very high for both men. that's not his problem. his problem is that he is able to have one good day, not two good days. he needs to have a solid wednesday and be solid thursday, friday. otherwise it looks like another fluke. you prepared for one performance but your campaign is in disarray. you don't have answers to questions. you can't give details to policies. but you're making big promises. that's not going to work for
. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here, karen, have more to lose than mitt romney? i mean, obviously the polls show that he's ahead. >> i think we're so focused on comparing it to each other. i think we need to be focused on is what kind of performance does each man need to have? i do think that the fact that -- remember, president obama was not good at...
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i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of let mr. romney climb out of that kind of space that they had put him in, but there will be many other opportunities as we see the president's back strong on the stump hammering romney. there will be another debate. we forget it's a long time ago, mondale wins the first debate against reagan, reagan comes back and cleans his clock in the second one. john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first debate, against george bush. george bush similarly seemed very unhappy to be there as the president. bush comes back in the second one and wins, goes on to win. so lots of opportunity for the president to come back. but clearly let romney back into this. >> i guess, sam, how far is mitt going to go towards the middle? i mean, bill brings up the question of reproductive rights, the obama care question is certainly still, you know, how much is mitt romney going to embrace massachusetts, his legacy there, in the coming weeks? it's a sharp pivot. >> wasn't just during the debate. he was
i think clearly president obama missed the opportunity to do that during the debate. he kind of let mr. romney climb out of that kind of space that they had put him in, but there will be many other opportunities as we see the president's back strong on the stump hammering romney. there will be another debate. we forget it's a long time ago, mondale wins the first debate against reagan, reagan comes back and cleans his clock in the second one. john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first...
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reporting president obama himself knows that he lost the debate. he's upset about it. here to talk about it tonight, obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher. also, ralph reed. cornell, bored, aloof, some said even arrogant. those are some of the words used today and last night to describe president obama on that stage. what exactly was the strategy heading into this? was there a strategy? >> what you saw last night from the president was the president trying to lay out the facts to those few undecided voters that are still out there. here's our plan, here's how we want to move the country forward versus mitt romney and his plan about moving the country forward. the problem with the debate last night is that one candidate showed up talking about the facts of their plan and the other candidate showed up with a completely different plan, and was completely dishonest about the facts of his plan. that was a little problematic. >> but the president did not seem to take the fight to mitt romney. if you believe that mitt romney wasn't being honest, the presid
reporting president obama himself knows that he lost the debate. he's upset about it. here to talk about it tonight, obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher. also, ralph reed. cornell, bored, aloof, some said even arrogant. those are some of the words used today and last night to describe president obama on that stage. what exactly was the strategy heading into this? was there a strategy? >> what you saw last night from the president was the president trying to lay out the facts to those few...
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this negate, did this debate ding romney and obama head to head did this negate this false narrative the president has been advance something did they get the sense that obama cannot run on his record because we have fewer americans working, $6 trillion in debt and 49 million on food stamps? >> and this is hard to defend a failed record like he has. romney came out and set forth clear points about how to turn the economy around and create job autos there is a difference between leadership and management. and romney is a leader in obama tried to manage this thing. >> it's an interesting point. >> this is a kind of -- . >> this is a competition between style and substance. have you to have something of substance to run a country like this and hold everyone together for the common good. and style, obviously hasn't worked for the last four years. >> houchl you thought -- how many of you thought romney exceeded your kpekt stations? how many of you thought obama fell short of your kpekt stations? what advice? are you moving towards obama? >> obama? be more on his game about showing the non
this negate, did this debate ding romney and obama head to head did this negate this false narrative the president has been advance something did they get the sense that obama cannot run on his record because we have fewer americans working, $6 trillion in debt and 49 million on food stamps? >> and this is hard to defend a failed record like he has. romney came out and set forth clear points about how to turn the economy around and create job autos there is a difference between leadership...
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mitt romney is the clear winner of last night's debate, even i'm co conceding the obama loss. we all agree on this. the real question on moving forward is weather romney's win will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today. obama is en route to a rally in wisconsin, but earlier today in denver supporters saw the obama we hoped to see last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner.
mitt romney is the clear winner of last night's debate, even i'm co conceding the obama loss. we all agree on this. the real question on moving forward is weather romney's win will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today....
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. >> reporter: the obama campaign admits it needs a change in strategy for the next two debates. president obama held back from attacking romney during the debate but that changed when he returned to the campaign trail. >> i almost got to watch out. >> reporter: the president attacked romney's plan to cut subsidies to pbs and his position was so different from what he said in the past he didn't recognize who he was debating. >> whoever was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what mitt romney has been saying in the last year. >> vice president biden gave the romney campaign another nugget to jump on. >> obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. yes we do. >> reporter: biden said the super wealthy needs to pay more. romney says that will kill jobs. another wild card in this race comes later this morning. the government releases its september unemployment report. experts see that jobless rate rising from the current 8.1%. >> we'll be talking about that a little later. susan mcginnis in washington. thank you so much. word this morning that a r
. >> reporter: the obama campaign admits it needs a change in strategy for the next two debates. president obama held back from attacking romney during the debate but that changed when he returned to the campaign trail. >> i almost got to watch out. >> reporter: the president attacked romney's plan to cut subsidies to pbs and his position was so different from what he said in the past he didn't recognize who he was debating. >> whoever was on stage last night doesn't...
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when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that
when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are...